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sami wrote:It must be hard not to watch the trailers when they're just a click away ! In any case they don't reveal too much. My fave was the first one. You should watch that one first, you'll see ;-) I did watch the first one when it came out but I can't help feeling a bit manipulated with all the others that have appeared since: and there's a new one again now too! (I'll post it tomorrow if you or Admin don't beat me to it.) sami wrote:About Letterman , I don't know if I'm allowed to insult him in here but I think he's an old fart ! Is he? The only time I watch his show is when Joaquin is on it or when there are Joaquin-related clips like the AA one. I can't watch his show on my television. sami wrote:I have a friend that works in a high end retail store. I asked how much does a good suit cost she told me about $1200, but the really expensive ones are taylored. They go up to $20.000. Now when I look at the pics I see a celeb dressed and put together I just think about the money they spent on it and it turns me off. Why do I always need to ask questions ? It completely spoiled it ! Bit of a random post, this.  $20,000 is approx. £12,600! That is way too much money for a suit! Some celebs live in a totally different world....that's probably pocket money to them. I might be wrong, but I doubt Joaquin's suit cost that much money. I think he's a bit more down to earth and bought his 'off the peg'.
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Ditto!
E molto bello, mi piace anche cosi :)
He chose earth colors! Blue, green, brown .. I love it !
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joy wrote:sami wrote:It must be hard not to watch the trailers when they're just a click away ! In any case they don't reveal too much. My fave was the first one. You should watch that one first, you'll see ;-) I did watch the first one when it came out but I can't help feeling a bit manipulated with all the others that have appeared since: and there's a new one again now too! (I'll post it tomorrow if you or Admin don't beat me to it.) sami wrote:About Letterman , I don't know if I'm allowed to insult him in here but I think he's an old fart ! Is he? The only time I watch his show is when Joaquin is on it or when there are Joaquin-related clips like the AA one. I can't watch his show on my television. sami wrote:I have a friend that works in a high end retail store. I asked how much does a good suit cost she told me about $1200, but the really expensive ones are taylored. They go up to $20.000. Now when I look at the pics I see a celeb dressed and put together I just think about the money they spent on it and it turns me off. Why do I always need to ask questions ? It completely spoiled it ! Bit of a random post, this. $20,000 is approx. £12,600! That is way too much money for a suit! Some celebs live in a totally different world....that's probably pocket money to them. I might be wrong, but I doubt Joaquin's suit cost that much money. I think he's a bit more down to earth and bought his 'off the peg'. I dont I need another trailer.. Please stop the trailers!!! We had enough teasing , we will come watch your movie, have no doubt about it !!
Letterman always askS the same silly questions. He is so lazy and predictable. I don't like how he treats women and young actors/ actresses . He is too condescending and if something doesn't fit his narrow frame box like mentality he will make fun of you !! I don't like him !!
Your probably right about the suit. I don't think Joaquin is like that..
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sami wrote:E molto bello, mi piace anche cosi :) Brava! (I'm assuming...) sami wrote:He chose earth colors! Blue, green, brown .. I love it ! So he did.  The colours suit him very well. sami wrote:
I dont I need another trailer.. Please stop the trailers!!! We had enough teasing , we will come watch your movie, have no doubt about it !!
OK...I won't post the new trailer. Honest!  
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"Brava! (I'm assuming...)" You assume well . I thought it was obvious although I guess I could pass for a gay man too :) "So he did. The colours suit him very well." Yes :) "OK...I won't post the new trailer. Honest! " Well, u can post it if you want. It will not bothe me, I just had enough, I lost interest in the trailers ! ?
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Who else thinks the press conference was a bit lame ? Do they take it seriously at all? the sound was bad, you can't understand very well what Paul says, the 2 actresses didn't even fit into the screen, or even talk ... Joaquin didn't speak which I respect but Phillip rambled a bit too I don't know why Joaquin shouldn't have to speak . I would love to listen to his thoughts and ideas !
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I just noticed Phillip Seymour Hoffman even has stains in his shirt! You are right Joy, Joaquin is the only one who dressed well for the press conference. He is the only one with the shirt tucked under his pants. You would think he would be the one dressing sloppy of them all, but once again he is proof that things are not always what they seem ;)
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Not that I really care about these kinds of things but since I'm watching the pics , u know !
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Oh wait , I just found the part when he speaks :
Some YouTube comments say that he doesn't like to share his process, some others say that he doesn't like the press because of what happened to his brother, some others say that he is teasing , but everyone agrees that no matter what he is great. He has earned the respect of the audience .
I would love to hear more of what he has to say but if what he has to say is silence , well I guess that's a statement too :)
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Joaquin could say : I don't answer questions. I'm just here because I'm polite ! Just watch the movie and figure these questions yourself !! Then you come and tell me . I won't spoil it for you !!
Questions that journos can ask Joaquin:
- how would you describe the experience of shooting this movie?
- what is your favorite part of the filming process?
- how was it working with Paul? What about your costars?
And then light hearted ones that fans would like to know:
- what is your favorite food?
- do you like the beach?
- any hobbies ?
These are questions journos can ask and he can answer and that are interesting ! Edited by user Saturday, September 1, 2012 2:29:16 PM(UTC)
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On thing I 've learned about Joaquin during the time I have been following is that whenever you don't understand him you need to give him the benefit of the doubt and later you will understand. It always happens. For example, I have been thinking why Joaquin doesn't like to answer questions about process for the past hour more or less .. The stupid question journos ask and maybe what makes joaquin mad shows how little effort they have invested in understanding acting, and how much time they have invested to find a smart question to ask . If they think you can be a good actor applying logic and reason ... Well, what ind should answer to that? Obviously you can read the acting manual and be a terrible actor, the things that make a good actor go through another part of the brain , it's even non verbal. How can you put that into words? They are asking him to betray himself to please them when It's clearly another type of intelligence . Go read multiple intelligences now! It was written 20 years ago , some are still catching up, geez!! Edited by user Saturday, September 1, 2012 3:54:11 PM(UTC)
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On the other hand Joaquin could try to be more compassionate and try to educate the journalists . Instead if being so defensive he could try and explain them in a gentle way as if he was teaching a child the reasons why he can't answer that question . There is a lot of ignorance true but he could do a lot of good for his profession . It is as if there was a big gap in between the press and the actors. They are supposed to put up a show and it clearly bothers Joaquin and others, I'm sure! They ate paid a lot, they are in the magazines, etc. but arectheyvreally respected or are they rather used ? I would love to hear your comments on this !
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The video where Joaquin answers the journalist’s question makes very little audible sense to me: I just hear ‘mumble, mumble, crackle, mumble, crackle’. If you can let me know the question the journalist asked then I’ll be able to comment more on what I think of Joaquin’s answer and the press conference as a whole.
In general, Joaquin has spoken in the past about his reluctance to discuss the processes involved in his acting and the processes of filming. I remember reading something when he was promoting WOTN and a particular scene was mentioned – Joaquin and Eva were in the back seat of a car during a film chase and he mentioned that one of the film crew was crouching down in the back with them, out of shot, doing something to aid the filming of the scene (I forget what exactly now, but (bad) memory recalls that he was rocking the car to give the impression that it was bumping around at high speed). Joaquin’s point was (I think), why would the cinema-goer want to know how a scene was filmed? Wouldn’t it detract from the viewer being engaged in the story and characters, etc? If you knew that there was a guy in the back of the car rocking it when the scene was being filmed, you’d be thinking about that rather than being involved in the story and being entertained.
I think Joaquin feels the same way about his acting. It’s his job, as an actor, to ‘find’ the character and involve himself in the process of delivering the character to the audience, if you like, so that the final product is something which is believable, entertaining or whatever. Our ‘job’ as the audience, is to engage with the story and characters: if we knew everything of the processes involved we wouldn’t be watching the film, but rather, to some degree, analysing his acting style and methods. Our experience of the film would be, to a certain extent, dis-engaged. We’d be watching Joaquin Phoenix acting and I think Joaquin doesn’t want us to see that.
Having said this, Joaquin has also spoken about some of the processes he’s used in developing the characters he’s portrayed, so I’m also inclined to believe that Joaquin’s response to questions about these things depends on circumstances and the questioner.
Those are good fan questions. My guesses would be:
Any (vegan) food cooked or prepared for him by someone else.
Depends on what kind of beach you mean.
Photographing clouds.
I think the question on most fans’ minds atm is “Who’s that girl?” Not that it’s any of our business really, but if Joaquin turns up in Venice with a female companion, we’re interested… Reading around, many are saying she’s his girlfriend. Well, she might be, but should we automatically assume?
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Hi Joy,
Thanks for your post. I read, it makes sense. I agree that certain things can definitely spoil the movie, and actually if Joaquin told us what he's doing then we wouldn't be able to get into the character and the story, it would break the magic .. SoTrue ! Thanks for letting me Know about that interview! I still dont understand why he gets so upset with the press but it's okay. I won't sweat it .
I love your answers to Joaquin's questions . This is sweet of you. We could start a role playing game , ahahaha !!!!! (just being silly)I am the press and you are Joaquin !
I've seen the pictures with "the girl" .. Yeah I'm curious too but I don't expect any formal presentations! I read on the imbd board that some say she is Heather Christie. I never heard of her before !
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Can you tell me the question the journalist asked Joaquin at the press conference? You don't have to state it word for word; a precis will do. Really, I couldn't understand a word of it (the journalist's question) but I'd like to try and understand Joaquin's reaction better.
You asked if the actors are really respected or if they're really used (by the press) and I would say that in the circumstances surrounding a press conference for a film - like the one Joaquin and the others attended in Venice - the press/media expect a bit of give and take. They are there doing a job and they likely see the actors/directors being there to do a job too ie: discuss the film. Whether the journos are any good at their job is by the by really. They probably have an angle for writing their article and pose their questions with that angle in mind. I don't really know for sure. It's all a game in the end and these press conferences are part of the game. Joaquin's 'problem' is that he doesn't like participating in the game. That's how it (partly) seems to me, anyway.
I've never heard of HC either...not until she appeared with Joaquin. I don't know anyone. I have read that she was Anthony Kiedis' girlfriend for a few years (I could equally say that he was her boyfriend). I know from the past that Joaquin is good friends with AK....it all seems a bit incestuous to me. A bit 'rock & roll'. Of course, I don't know the story of Venice (and I also doubt we'll get a formal announcement unless it's "Joaquin Phoenix Weds!") but I was surprised and curious.
Go for it. If you want to play a question & answer game to pass the time I'm up for it. I'll go and practice being Joaquin....
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Oh shoot ! I was 30 m into writing a thoughtful reply and i lost it !! I will be back later  Edited by user Sunday, September 2, 2012 6:47:17 AM(UTC)
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